‘I'm most interested in the garish, kind of kitschy, feel of the work. There's something almost dangerous about the work. Will it work? Will it succeed or not? Just the coming together of the painting and the material used in the outside part, which functions as a frame, but also very much alters the meaning of the inner image. I find the ship painting very interesting, because you get a kind of reversal between the role of the painting, the canvas, and the material which is intervening, pushing the painting to the perimeter. It even goes beyond that, again he has a certain vocabulary, which is taken out of the recent history of painting. There are many painters who used fabric to paint on, for instance Polke, but he already, in those three pieces, the relation between the fabric and the painting changes. They take different roles, the reversal of the frame and the interior. He is very aware of what he is doing. The fact that, in those three pieces, he alters the role of the vocabulary he uses, gives the hope that he is not sticking to this as a trick.’

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‘I'm most interested in the garish, kind of kitschy, feel of the work. There's something almost dangerous about the work. Will it work? Will it succeed or not? Just the coming together of the painting and the material used in the outside part, which functions as a frame, but also very much alters the meaning of the inner image. I find the ship painting very interesting, because you get a kind of reversal between the role of the painting, the canvas, and the material which is intervening, pushing the painting to the perimeter. It even goes beyond that, again he has a certain vocabulary, which is taken out of the recent history of painting. There are many painters who used fabric to paint on, for instance Polke, but he already, in those three pieces, the relation between the fabric and the painting changes. They take different roles, the reversal of the frame and the interior. He is very aware of what he is doing. The fact that, in those three pieces, he alters the role of the vocabulary he uses, gives the hope that he is not sticking to this as a trick.’